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Reply #40 - 04/22/11 at 16:33:20

Los Humungos   Offline
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How do I get one of those cool MR340 paddles for the 2010 race?

Also,

On the MR340 web page, are there results for the race in previous years?  There seems to be a link, but I can not find any results.

Thanks!

Wally
 

Sometimes when you are man, you wear stretchy pants...its for fun... -Nacho   
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Reply #41 - 04/25/11 at 12:57:25
Scott   Ex Member

 
Results are scattered after the website rehab.  Whenever I need anything, I use google to track it down.

2010 results are here:

http://rivermiles.com/forum/YaBB.pl?num=1283212903/0

 
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Reply #42 - 04/25/11 at 13:02:01
Scott   Ex Member

 
I can't make the race now.  Can I get a refund? 


The registration everyone clicked through explains a refund policy of 50% up until April 15th.  After April 15th, there are no refunds.   Entries are non-transferable.

Here's the entry form for review:

http://rivermiles.com/?page_id=8

 
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Reply #43 - 04/25/11 at 23:22:08

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Here is 2010...
 
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Reply #44 - 04/25/11 at 23:23:11

Barbara   Offline
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Here is 2009...(I'm looking for 2008, if anybody wants it)

Thanks for getting me on track.
 
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Reply #45 - 04/26/11 at 11:58:55
Scott   Ex Member

 
Thanks, Barbara!

Hope you're getting all caught up on your sleep and ready for July.
 
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Reply #46 - 04/28/11 at 13:30:38

Jmehuys   Offline
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Scott,

I have a question?

We recently lost one team member to a bad wing.

Can we substitute?

If we cannot find a third can we do the race as a team of two.

Thanks
 
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Reply #47 - 04/28/11 at 13:44:14
Scott   Ex Member

 
Dropping to two is the easiest way.  Getting a new teammate is not as simple as subbing.  There are waivers, etc.  Let me know what you decide.

scott@rivermiles.com

 
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Reply #48 - 04/28/11 at 18:15:51

Los Humungos   Offline
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Thanks for the info on the results.

I guess I should have clarified myself on the paddle request.  Is there a link or a place where I can buy one of those little paddles with the laser engraving of the race emblem and a place where you can put the members of your team and so on?

Thanks
 

Sometimes when you are man, you wear stretchy pants...its for fun... -Nacho   
You do not get guns like these from riding a bike. -Matt Strieb
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Reply #49 - 04/29/11 at 20:28:36

Manitou Paddler   Offline
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Scott

Are you willing to identify a postponement alternate race date?......all indications are a higH water year.....hope that it is high, but not too high........and I need to keep the alternate slot open on my calendar......I am super motivated this year...and even if the race is delayed...wanna do it......but my work is complex....so need to defend the possible time slot

And maybe like taking an umbrella on a chance of rain....prevents rain Roll Eyes...it will work to ensure we race  in july Smiley

Bryan
 

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Reply #50 - 04/29/11 at 22:55:07

Los Humungos   Offline
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Los Humungos wrote on 04/28/11 at 18:15:51:
Thanks for the info on the results.

I guess I should have clarified myself on the paddle request.  Is there a link or a place where I can buy one of those little paddles with the laser engraving of the race emblem and a place where you can put the members of your team and so on?

Thanks


Found it. Sorry, I could not find it off the merchandise page of the new website. Easy to find off the 2010 Merchandise thread on the forum Smiley
Thanks!
 

Sometimes when you are man, you wear stretchy pants...its for fun... -Nacho   
You do not get guns like these from riding a bike. -Matt Strieb
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Reply #51 - 05/01/11 at 12:36:37
Scott   Ex Member

 
Alternate dates are difficult to identify because we'd need to know the nature of the delay.  Massive flooding would require a month to be safe.  The back edge of a modest spike could mean we start Thursday morning instead of Tuesday morning and squeeze the race Thursday - Sunday rather than Tuesday-Friday. 

The bad thing about moving it out a month is that it conflicts with all the school schedules for teachers and students.  And it is a much shorter day and we tend to have much more fog. 

Short answer, No, I don't have a firm reschedule date at this time.  But I have confidence in our existing date.  Good forecast for the upcoming week!
 
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Reply #52 - 05/01/11 at 18:33:43

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Our three man team is now a two man team. Any big deal to substitute another team member or change to the tandem division?
 
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Reply #53 - 05/01/11 at 20:04:56
Scott   Ex Member

 
Easy to drop to two.  Just email me with the details of who dropped and I'll move you to tandem.  Subbing is more complicated with waiver signage, etc.   But we can do that as well.

Scott
 
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Reply #54 - 05/05/11 at 10:46:35

goldfishgoddess   Offline
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Hey Scott?  Something I have meant to tell you about from last year.  I was continuing past Cooper's Landing at dusk and by myself paddling along.  Suddenly I was surrounded by a lot of gunfire.   I had no idea what was going on, or if I would be seen well-enough by whoever was firing.  In my home state, we do paddle during hunting season but we take care to wear the right colors to be seen.  What I did was turn on my headlamp strobe and boat spotlight to make sure if the shots were from hunters they'd know boats were going past.

Later I caught up to some locals, who explained there was a shooting range around that point.  Is there a way we could find out where that is and let people here know?
 

Lots of love from Wales, United Kingdom.
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Reply #55 - 06/02/11 at 11:49:55

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I have ask before! Why should we stay away from Lisbon bottums? Has any one gotten through it and shaved a half hour to an hour off there time?
 
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Reply #56 - 06/02/11 at 13:28:59

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Nope. --West
 

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Reply #57 - 06/02/11 at 16:29:17

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I did see the carcass of a very nice boat that got crushed there last year. And they didn't even make it into the chute. Glasgow fire and rescue were pulling the tandem team off a rack heap when we arrived. Regardless of how it looks, it ain't worth it.
Walt
 

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Reply #58 - 06/02/11 at 22:14:21

Mark Bramer   Offline
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If you stick with the river and follow the channel from the mouth of the chute to the confluence where it re-joins the river, you've traveled about 3.4 miles.  If you decide to take the chute, an "optimal" path takes you about 2.2 miles if you start and end from identical points.

Let's say you average 8mph on the river.  So the river path will take you 25.5 minutes.  Yes, that's all, meaning that's the maximum possible time you can save at 8mph (if you have a teleporter).  Taking the chute at 8mph, on the other hand, will take you 16.5 minutes.  You may think that means you can save 9 minutes by taking the chute.

However...

You have to survive the waterfall and stay upright while keeping your supplies (such as the light you'll be using if you're near the head of the pack) inside of your boat.  You really don't want to lose your light in the Bottoms.

You have to find a "channel" that is deep enough to take you continuously through the chute.  The chute isn't managed like the river is, so there's no guarantee of a channel.  On the contrary, you're likely to find sandbars, mud, overturned trees, logjams, boulders, or whatever other hazards might find their way into the chute.  And Asian carp love low, shallow, slow-moving water.

In the chute, you have to maintain 8mph in dead water (i.e., there's no Missouri River current in the chute, it flows more slowly than the river).  If it costs you even 1mph to take the chute, it will cost you much of your advantage...  It's 19 minutes to get through it at 7mph, so your 9-minute advantage has been cut to 6.5 minutes.

In order to save 15 minutes going equal speeds through either route, you'd have to average 4.8mph, yielding 42.5 minutes the "slow" way and 27.5 minutes the "fast" way - Which in today's river means you'd have to paddle upstream to go that slow in the channel.

If you get stuck, getting out of your boat will land you in a swampy marsh that will surely suck away any advantage you may gain.  And if your boat is disabled by any of the hazards, you should bank on NO ONE finding you.  In fact, one of the people who got stuck couldn't even figure out what direction to go to get out.

If anyone tells you that they've saved a significant amount of time by taking the chute, I would be willing to bet they're exaggerating.  Regardless, I personally don't think the risks are worth it.  If you're one of the top 5% boats in your division, you're not saving time by "shooting the chute".  You can save just as much time by reducing each checkpoint by about 60 seconds.  It may be an interesting weekend adventure, but probably not something to try if you're near the lead.

Hope that helps...
 

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Reply #59 - 06/03/11 at 08:30:36
Osprey   Ex Member

 
Nice job, Mark.  Well reasoned.  I hope this puts this notion finally to rest.  We'll have to refer back to your posting next year when new racers ask the same question.

 
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