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09/22/10 at 18:39:49

Driftwood   Offline
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Hello All,

I'm lookinh to purchase my first kayak and need some advice. I've been looking at the dagger baja, does anyone have any suggestions/info?

5'9" 190 to big?

Whats a good price?

Thanks! Cheesy
 
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Reply #1 - 09/23/10 at 09:05:53
Osprey   Ex Member

 
Although questions like this are common on message boards and usually spark fun debate, I'll take a first crack.

You need to answer several questions before you decide a on make and model.

1 - How often will you paddle (be realistic)
2 - What kind of waters will you be paddling on mostly
3 - What kind of paddling will you be doing (puttering, tripping, expedition, fitness, racing, etc.)
4 - What is your budget
5 - If budget is a problem, be wise and skimp on boat purchase before you skimp on a paddle purchase
6 - Choose between new and used
7 - How will you store and transport
8 - Canoe vs. kayak - great options for solo paddler in both designs

I suggest you get a handle on these issues (No. 8 will take you a lifetime to answer) before you plunk down a wad of cash.  But, show up where people are paddling and try their boats, demo where you can, borrow boats and try as many different configurations and options as possible.  Then, when all is said and done, and you make your purchase, know that you'll be thinking of another purchase in the not-too-distant future after that.

It's a disease.

Dan
 
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Reply #2 - 09/23/10 at 11:26:10

Driftwood   Offline
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1 - How often will you paddle (be realistic)

Twice a month, hopefully more.


2 - What kind of waters will you be paddling on mostly

Big river and lakes


3 - What kind of paddling will you be doing (puttering, tripping, expedition, fitness, racing, etc.)

Day trips mostly with the end goal being the MR340


4 - What is your budget

400-700


5 - If budget is a problem, be wise and skimp on boat purchase before you skimp on a paddle purchase

OK


6 - Choose between new and used

Used, unless I find a good deal on new


7 - How will you store and transport

On top of my single cab silverado, I have not attempted this yet.


8 - Canoe vs. kayak - great options for solo paddler in both designs

Kayak for now


What do you think of a necky kayaks manitou 14 Vs Dagger Baja 16?
 
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Reply #3 - 09/23/10 at 11:44:42

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#5-Skimp on the boat for a high tech blade and you will have a bad experience. Its easier to upgrade a paddle than a boat. The importance in the paddle selection is balance and comfort not necessarily weight or what it is made of. Spend your money on a well designed boat first, learn how to paddle then upgrade your equipment.
 
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Reply #4 - 09/24/10 at 11:15:17

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Thanks for the advice, I think I'm going with the dagger Baja.

Hopefully I'll be able to try it out at Creve Coeur Lake tomorrow. ;D
 
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Reply #5 - 09/24/10 at 16:22:37

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I love my Dagger Baja. I ran 40 miles on the Muddy Mo last weekend. The river was pretty high at Lexington. The Rudder was great for keeping it straight through some of the whirlpools etc. I really can not imagine you not liking the Baja. I am 6' and 200 lbs.  Smiley
 
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Reply #6 - 09/24/10 at 19:45:14

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I went ahead and got the Dagger Baja.

Can't wait its strapped to my truck and ready for our first time out on creve coeur lake in the morning.

Now the learning process starts Shocked
 
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Reply #7 - 09/24/10 at 21:22:31

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I bet you love it!! Smiley
 
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Reply #8 - 09/25/10 at 18:09:15
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Charlie, you ever paddle a plastic kayak with a box-store paddle for 75 hours?



 
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Reply #9 - 09/25/10 at 19:00:07

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Dan-No, I'm from N.J. and have more sense than that, but I did start canoeing in an 80# 15 ft Grumman with stock straight wood paddles and after that experience upgraded the boat to 17 ft and 65# and it was a world of difference even with the same paddles hence my take on the boat vs paddle issue.
 
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Reply #10 - 09/26/10 at 09:33:10

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Luckily it came with a Werner paddle. I think it’s an Athena

The first time out went great and helped me indentify a couple problems.


The Rudder pedals need a new elastic strap to straighten the rudder.

The seat was hard on my lower back. I'm going to look for upgrades or maybe do something custom.

I definitely need a roof rack or a better way of transportation. Foam on my trucks roof didn’t work well.
 
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